tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-544994476350084459.post7204571838120415464..comments2023-08-25T03:09:40.087-05:00Comments on Gathering the wind: Here's what I don't getWind Gathererhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08374251665158760423noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-544994476350084459.post-61897236884337369122008-12-14T11:29:00.000-06:002008-12-14T11:29:00.000-06:00Winston & Kerry: I think the "personal p...Winston & Kerry: I think the "personal property" question is something of a red herring. Yes, horses are "personal property" in all 50 states, but that doesn't mean we can't have laws, or for that matter Jockey Club rules, that require breeders and owners to provide for their horses' post-racing careers. All sorts of laws and regulations restrict the ability of people to deal with their personal property, for the good of the larger community.Steve Zornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00290710261555708639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-544994476350084459.post-29619409091879291902008-12-12T11:39:00.000-06:002008-12-12T11:39:00.000-06:00It does not help when your managing partner cannot...It does not help when your managing partner cannot even make an attempt to keep people in the know. As other blogs such as Handride and Owning Thoroughbreds can attest, Equibase alerts provide more info than your "leader". The reality is that most syndiactions exist solely for the management fees they collect (some upwards of 30%). Getting people into the game has become a forgotten goal. Most online or publically advertised partnerships do a better job at getting people to leave the game than to stay. If something is not done to prevent this you can kiss the next generation of owners goodbye.trrackihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010178075757886114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-544994476350084459.post-55347640401400450342008-12-09T19:38:00.000-06:002008-12-09T19:38:00.000-06:00Yessir, I'll have that to you first thing in the m...Yessir, I'll have that to you first thing in the morning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-544994476350084459.post-35065006842115837792008-12-09T11:13:00.000-06:002008-12-09T11:13:00.000-06:00Kerry- Sorry. My fault. But I need you to immedia...Kerry- Sorry. My fault. But I need you to immediately get back to me on this with an extensive report and the oldest precedent on the books.<BR/><BR/>Actually, I bought 'The Complete Equine Legal and Business Handbook' by Milton C. Toby(Bloodhorse publication) and he states that all fifty states regard animals as personal property.<BR/><BR/>I was just spitballing the possibility of changing that and affording animals some more, maybe "rights" isn't the correct word, but protections. I don't know either way but I would guess it would not receive much support, since it would impose greater responsibilities on owners.<BR/><BR/>I don't know what the legal issues are but I think the designation as property lets owners wash their hands in all cases.Wind Gathererhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08374251665158760423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-544994476350084459.post-84788038960578588012008-12-09T10:53:00.000-06:002008-12-09T10:53:00.000-06:00Not sure what you mean. Law treats horses as all s...Not sure what you mean. Law treats horses as all sorts of things, including personal property, consumer goods, equipment, farm products ... are you saying horses should or should not be regarded as personal property? Sorry, just not following, my fault, too focused on land use planning today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-544994476350084459.post-20008590741548114702008-12-09T10:08:00.000-06:002008-12-09T10:08:00.000-06:00Kerry-Would a change in the law that regards anima...Kerry-Would a change in the law that regards animals as personal property carry any weight? It would probably put too much of a burden on owners for anyone to get behind it.<BR/><BR/>Josephine-I am not sure where you read that I profess to be more noble than anybody else. I think the matter of regarding horses as property is a legitimate concern for anyone to have.<BR/><BR/>Thank you both for reading.Wind Gathererhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08374251665158760423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-544994476350084459.post-20209467109780778382008-12-09T08:47:00.000-06:002008-12-09T08:47:00.000-06:00Who can say what business is more noble than one o...Who can say what business is more noble than one other's. Anyone can argue they do good in their own business than yours. Not very impressed, sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-544994476350084459.post-66138529746241554022008-12-09T07:54:00.000-06:002008-12-09T07:54:00.000-06:00It does make you wonder when that old joke stopped...It does make you wonder when that old joke stopped being recognized as a universal truth - "how do you get a small fortune in racing? Start out with a large one." The gradual separation of ownership and control has contributed to the problem, I think - it makes it easier to view horses as assets that you should dump when they stop generating revenue, much easier to eschew responsibility. <BR/>As far as owner responsibility goes, I've been advocating it for a while, so you aren't going to hear any arguments from me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com